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Import From China arrow Others arrow Does China Beat India For Sourcing, Hands Down?

Does China Beat India For Sourcing, Hands Down?

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Tuesday, 23 February 2010
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By Dan Harris in 'China Law Blog'

Yesterday, we did a recommended reading post on a China Sourcing Blog post comparing India and China for sourcing, using statistics to do so. We very quickly received a comment from Joel Waldbaum making very clear that sourcing product from China is far superior and far cheaper than sourcing product (or really anything) from India:

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Having lived in, and sourced from India for 30 years, and now China, for the past 5 years, I strongly disagree that India is in any way, comparable to China. The "numbers" do not really tell the true story, at all.

Logistics is a joke in India. It takes 3 days to unload/load a container ship in Mumbai. I have "lost" containers put on a train in New Delhi which somehow are missing when the train arrives in Mumbai. Yes, containers disappear from trains.

The Mumbai High Court has ruled that proven theft (proven in court) is not sufficient grounds for firing a worker. To close a company/factory with more than 90 workers requires government permission, which has till date, never been given.

India manufactures what China, for a variety of reasons, chooses NOT to manufacture: too labor intensive, too short production runs, primarily for the domestic Indian market where there are tariffs protecting the Indian manufacturer.

The real cost of Indian labor is 2-3 times the cost of China labor when you take into account productivity, Indian workers need for excessive/extensive supervision, and the costs of benefits. This is why Chinese construction companies choose to import Chinese labor to India, for projects they are working on in India, and why, till very recently, there were 40,000+ Chinese workers in India doing construction.

I am fully aware of the problems of sourcing in China. Nevertheless, India's costs and logistics make it the second choice for any product currently available in China.

With the poor response to call centers in India by American consumers/customers, I also expect China to shortly (as English in China becomes more widespread) become the destination of choice for out-sourcing.

Similarly with software development.

I have been waiting for 20 years for India to actualize its potential. It has not, and I believe it will not. China has, and will continue to grow market share from both developed, and other so-called undeveloped countries.

If you look at what India is currently manufacturing, and who are the customers (most domestic), and compare this to what China is manufacturing, a truer picture of where you should source emerges.

Walmart is not stupid. They only started sourcing in India, so that they could get permission to open stores in India, which has still not occurred. Nor have their own targets been achieved. There is not much worth buying, in comparison to China.

Because my firm does no India work, I have no direct information on sourcing from India and very little indirect information. So is Waldbaum right in claiming China is far superior toIndia for sourcing? Is India really that bad? I will say that virtually none of my clients have even mentioned India as a potential sourcing country.

UPDATE: Quality Inspection Blog has done an excellent follow-up post on this, entitled, "Pros and cons of sourcing products in India vs. China," comparing sourcing from these two countries.


Dan Harris is founder of the Harris & Moure law firm, a boutique international law firm focusing on small and medium sized businesses that operate internationally. China is the fastest growing area for the firm. Dan writes ChinaLawBlog.com as a source of China legal and business information.
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Chris Devonshire-Ellis, Unregistered
This issue over sourcing is partly dependent on quotas. International sourcing of garments and textiles for example has dried up in China. That market has shifted almost entirely to India. I disagree with Harris's comments - as he said, he possesses no India knowledge. The trend for sourcing from India as opposed to China is beginning, and it will increase. China has massive trade surpluses, an aging and increasingly expensive workforce, and India will start to compete. It's already happening. The last 20 years for India are largely irrelevant. Its the next 20 years that are going to be interesting.
 Posted 2010-02-25 19:02:15
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Savita Bhabhi, Unregistered
Indian Manufacturing went up by a whopping 16.8% last month so I guess thats indicative of more sourcing? People source, they buy, and manufacturing increases. Makes sense. While China (and China focused commentators) remain bullish, the picture won't stay constant. India will become competitive and especially in some areas against Chinese products. India already leads in IT and software for example.
 Posted 2010-02-25 20:57:43
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Wangjianshuo, Unregistered
GM & SAIC are sourcing Indian made auto components for their new Beat car, which is sold in China and elsewhere. Just one example. Dan Harris may have ChinaLawBlog as your source but he's based in Seattle - a long way from China or India. Good topic though, are Global Sources doing anything on India?
 Posted 2010-02-25 23:15:11
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Sanjit Pavarti, Unregistered
With a good Indian budget just released you may find India's share increasing. Its always about the money at the end of the day.
 Posted 2010-03-02 00:01:21
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Vikas, Unregistered
Not in IT it doesn't. Facebook, Google, IBM, Dell, Microsoft all in India as Asian operational bases. China is losing its way in IT due to its political stance on censorship and access to information, which runs counter to what IT is really all about.
 Posted 2010-03-17 23:05:31
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